Paul Ryan speaks with Katrina vanden Heuvel and Carlos Watson on MSNBC on health care July 29, 2009 - Paul Ryans Health Care Reform: A Plan Forward: www.house.gov - Become a Fan of Paul Ryan on Facebook: www.facebook.com - Follow Paul Ryan on Twitter: twitter.com --- PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT Carlos Watson, MSNBC: You wrote recently in an op-ed in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Before members even had time to read the 1000-page bill, it already has cleared two major House committees and is set to be fast-tracked through Congress in the days and weeks ahead. Those members of Congress who voted for this bill already in their committees did so without knowing what the legislation costs. Before it's too late, let's take a closer look. Is this a genuine complaint? Congressman Paul Ryan: I dont think we should pass bills that we havent read and dont know what they cost. I dont think that is being effusive. I have already proposed legislation, and a number of Republicans are proposing alternatives. You can look at The Patients Choice Act or go to my Facebook page and youll see that there are many proposals that we have put out there. We want to see health care reform done, but we want to do it right. If you rush this thing through before anyone even knows what it is, thats not good democracy. Thats not doing our work for our constituents. Whats wrong with going home for August having town hall meetings, listening to our constituents, and then coming back in September and doing this ...
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Yeah, we don't want this rushed through. Is it our fault that this problem has not been fixed. No. We kept it from being crammed down our throat in the Clinton administration. We should get keep it from being crammed down our throat 18 years later. We can solve this problem in 80-90 years, tops. And when we do, it will be done right.
Paul Ryan is the best person in Washington...He completely owned those two members of the fringe left in America...MSNBC sucks and has no ratings for a reason...They should learn to be objective and quit trying to fuck with every conservative that comes on their programs
I love how Katrina says "With a public plan option" so condescendingly despite being completely incorrect. She's not only ugly, but ill-informed. Paul Ryan owns. Ryan 2012!!
F YEAH!! Paul Ryan DESTROYED those statist MSLSD pukes!!!!
@cano21 Ryan does not want to have an honest debate on healthcare because him and the cons have alredy lost. Was the war payed for or Medicare Part D or the Bush Tax Cuts? All of these things that Ryan voted for. The best way to reduce cost is ether expand Medicare or have a Public Option. Both of these are things that Ryan opposes. I see you get your info from HTWW... AKA I love Soc accounts, I have a good idea of your veiws.
@genYprogressive Thanks Grayson superfan #1. Now, do you have any original thoughts of your own or do you always just recite lines spoon fed to you by idiots like Alan Grayson? You're what's known as a "sheeple." Work on it.
That woman didn't have any facts straight. Does she work for that network?
Paul Ryans Plan is don't get sick and if you do get sick, DIE QUICKLY.
Ryan is the right wing's nigger!
He's good!
Hurricane Katrina got skewered.
you need to learn how to show respect
for other views other than your left wing ones wich so happen not to be popular right now its people like you who have given america a bad name not bush. it feels like im talking to a 3 year old about respect where were your parents teaching you about it it feels like youve never learned or herd of it take a lesson from this . But seriously what did your parents teach you about respect obviosly not much.
paul ryan is my congressman i am lucky
@LOOKNG778 At least people get to choose their "socialist" plan, and if they don't like it, they choose another one. If the government runs it, you have no other choices...
HERE A FACT: INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE SOCIALIST!! Well a large group of people pay into it, but only a small group in need uses it. IF THE GOVERNMENT RUNS IT THEN THERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY. Unlike the greed that has exploded in recent decades.
This Ryan guy just owned that girl, she tried to sucker him into a losing statement, he straightened it out and shot it back at her! Ha, I hope this guy runs for President!
@MrWorkingguy
We absolutely need to get together and have an honest debate, this is also a great opportunity to learn from each other.
Cap and Trade scares me (albeit I need to do some more research as my opinion here, I admit, is based on others opinions). It scares me because if we cap an energy company then naturally, less supply means higher costs to the end user (us). Economics 101. With that said I need to read the legislation. What are your thoughts?
@DarkLordCallMeDickC
I agree with you that the ultra right wing group continues to fail all of us, just as the ultra left wing. It will take those of use in the center to come together in a constructive manner. The dialogue is healthy, as long as we respect one another. Thank you for taking time to get involved. You have clearly done your homework.
What are you thoughts on Cap and Trade?
@mrWorkingguy
And that is true capitalism. Small mom and pop shops. Not these mega rich corps that work like Amway (Scamway). Pyramid schemes are never good.
There are some good things in this bill for small businesses (i.e. tax credits, accelerated depreciation, getting rid of capital gains tax if you sell an asset, etc.). The right wing media are a bunch of sore loser crybabies who want Obama to fail and don't care if it comes at the expense of the country.
@DarkLordCallMeDickC
Quite the name there...... but I will agree with you on one point, the insurance companies are not helping this. Big business and all the excess bonuses which reward failure are no better. Remember this, the majority of Americans work in small businesses, a completely different world from Wall Street. So let's not penalize the small businesses on account of the misguided folks on Wall Street.
Ryan is big business's nigger!
i hope he runs for Prez . . he's awesome !
I'm not a big fan of Ryan, but Katrina vanden Heuvel is a such a snide, manipulative little collectivist that it was a welcome sight to see somebody expose her tactics.
its gonna be priceless to see the look on these people fac who voted for this when it gets repeals.
OK William if I am judging your remarks correctly your in favor of goverment control of insurance and I am sure more than that, so speaking of someone moving why don't you move to France or some other place where goverment is more involved in your day to day life
Alan Grayson Honors The Dead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV9TRoYMtjs&feature=player_embedded
I want to commend all of you for working so hard and being so strong at helping the whitehouse and congress begin to address our U.S. and Global healthcare crisis. You have been AWESOME! my fellow Americans and peoples of the World. America and the World is better and safer for it. My greatest pride is the knowledge that I am one of you. And that you really get it. You really understand the importance of it all.
There are some potentially very good things in the healthcare legislation. Especially with the reconciliation fix’s. The Democrats, Bernie Sanders and the Whitehouse did a GREAT! job of fighting to produce the best healthcare legislation that they could. They have earned all our strong support. And we should give it to them.
But it was your relentless pressure and hard work that made the difference. Whatever good comes from this healthcare legislation, America and the peoples of the World will have each of you to thank. You were smart, creative, courageous and relentless. You fought together for the best legislation possible. And when you had to, you fought alone. No matter who stumbled and fell you continued to push and forge ahead. Fighting for the lives and health of the American people and the World. YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF YOUR-SELVES
It may come to pass that future generations will look back on us and say that we were ALL Americas Greatest Generations. And that healthcare reform was our finest hour. You should be proud of our leaders President Obama, Speaker Pelosi, Majority Leader Reid and the many other Democratic and independent fighters for the people in congress. They proved them-self worthy of the leadership of a GREAT! PEOPLE.
But we are not done yet. This was just the beginning of healthcare reform, not the end. WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES, ARE NOT! divided on healthcare legislation. The vast majority of you have been consistently crystal clear that this legislation does not go far enough. You want a strong Government-run Public Option CHOICE!! available to everyone on day one. And you want it NOW!
YOU MUST NOT ALLOW AN INDIVIDUAL MANDATE TO STAND WITHOUT A STRONG GOVERNMENT-RUN PUBLIC OPTION CHOICE! AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE.
WE THE PEOPLE have been crystal clear that we want an end to dependence on for-profit healthcare and the for-profit proxies called private for non-profit healthcare. The American people want the CHOICE! of a strong Government-run Public Option to replace their need or dependence on healthcare providers whose primary motivation is profit. Rather than providing the highest quality, easiest accessible and most affordable medically necessary healthcare possible. This is what the rest of the developed World has. And the American people want it too. They want healthcare ASSURANCE! Not, for-profit health insurance. And they want it NOW!
Now is the time to continue the push for a strong Government-run Public Option CHOICE! available to everyone that wants it on day one. Rationally it’s clear what we have to do to get this done. SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATS that supported you with a Public Option choice, and REMOVE as many republicans as you can. Not one republican in congress was willing to step across the isle to support a strong Government-run Public Option CHOICE!! available to everyone on day one. NOT ONE! Let no candidate prevail this November that does not support a Strong Government-run Public Option.
47,000 AMERICANS die each year from lack of healthcare. 120,000 die from treatable illness that don’t die in other developed countries. Hundreds of thousands of you are dieing from medical accidents in a rush to profit. And Millions of your are injured. Millions more are driven into bankruptcy. All for the privilege of paying two to three times as much as any other people in the developed world for healthcare. HOGWASH!
Additionally, tens of thousands of you and your children were killed and millions sickened and injured from a terror attack with H1N1 (swine flu). Released on the American people and the World by the for-profit healthcare industry. All in an attempt to panic and frighten you into accepting the oxymoronic criminal enterprise of private for-profit healthcare (The most costly, deadly, dangerous, and disgraceful product sold in America). H1N1 is still sickening people and killing them. Especially children, the young and the middle aged. And there will be a third wave. These are the terrorist you need to worry about the most. Even the so-called international terrorist would not do something so INSANE! But greed driven medical profiteers would and did.
Apparently as far as republicans in GOVERNMENT are concerned, YOU! my fellow Americans – CAN JUST DROP DEAD! Including their own family members. Fools!... Hundreds of thousands of you, and possibly millions of you will die from the long-term effects of your infection and poisoning with H1N1.
So my fellow Human Beings. Rest-up, Take good care of the basics (Balanced nutrition, hydration, exercise, rest and POSITIVE emotional supports). Then wade back into the FIGHT! for a strong Government-run Public Option CHOICE! available to everyone on day one. Drug re-importation, Abolishment or strong restrictions on patents for biologic and prescription drugs. And government controlled and negotiated drug and medical cost. You must take back control of your healthcare system from the Medical Industrial Complex. you MUST do it NOW! This is a matter of National and Global security. There can be NO MORE EXCUSES.
God Bless You My Fellow Human Beings. I’m glad to know of you. And proud to be one of you.
See you on the battle field.
Sincerely
jacksmith – WorkingClass
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